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Results: animation displayed as diagramms

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04/03/2018 7:40 AM
How I can change my results from animation into diagramms. I need for example the results as a diagramm showing the results during the prozess with the essential or all coordinatd of the following animation changed into diagramms: front flow temperature, share rate, the pressure and the polymer filling.

In addtion, I would like to show the depth of the unfilled cavity in the polymer-filling result, how Can I do this? I know there is a option of measure but I can‘t set it to don‘t disapear.

Thanks a lot for help!

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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/05/2018 6:24 AM

Hello @t1234.k1234,

 

Regarding "How I can change my results from animation into diagrams", do you mean something like what is shown below?

 

pic1.png

 

If so, you can create XY plot from New Plot > Plots;

 

pic2.png

 

Please let me know if this is different from your intent.
It would help us if you can explain a little bit more about what you meant by "diagrams".

 

Best regards,

Tetsuya

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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/05/2018 6:52 AM
First of all, Thanks for respond.

I want to show for example the differen pressure, temperature, share rate and the unfilled cavity of the micro structure of my construction part. There are 9 pins on it. When I try to change the results into a xy-diagram for example and change the displayed amount of curves into 9, I can‘t select no more than 5 and I can’t select the smallest pins to let it display as a cuve. It just don‘t work. By the way, is there a option, I can say for example take the coordinates of the pins from all studies (there are 12 studies I have to compare) and select the chosen criteria and give me the information I need, as I said, temperature, pressure, share rate and the filled or unfilled cavity?
Because, I know there is a option to compare the studies with criteria, but I am not sure, if i can also select Points with given coordinates to compare. I am still not sure, if it would might be better not to compare the pins.

Thanks a lot for help!

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04/06/2018 4:26 AM

Hello @kizaloglu.tugba,

 

Thank you for the reply.

 

>When I try to change the results into a xy-diagram for example and

>change the displayed amount of curves into 9, I can‘t select no more than 5

>and I can’t select the smallest pins to let it display as a cuve.

 

In the plot properties, you can set the maximum number of curves that can be displayed.

Please see below;

 

curves.png

 

>is there a option, I can say for example take the coordinates of the pins

>from all studies (there are 12 studies I have to compare) and select

>the chosen criteria and give me the information I need, as I said,

>temperature, pressure, share rate and the filled or unfilled cavity?

 

There is no option to pick points with coordinate values.

At present, we need to pick points from the screen or enter node/element numbers.

We recommend posting it to the Idea Station.

 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

 

Thanks,

Tetsuya



Tetsuya
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Autodesk, Inc.



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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/11/2018 7:51 AM

Hi @kizaloglu.tugba,

Thanks for posting!

The criteria is only used when exporting your results to Moldflow Communicator. By selecting a criteria you might filter the process settings you export and compare against two studies.

In this webinar - Utilizing Autodesk Moldflow Communicator to Review Analysis Results - you might find more information about the use of criteria files.

I hope it helps!

Cheers,

Javier
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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/24/2018 8:50 PM

I still have issues with displaying the results as a plot xy. 

I have chosen nodes manually and won't get a value displayed from them in the plot xy. Even if I have previously deposited these nodes as queried elements. I set in the plot settings, display 9 curves. 

 if I enter the all 9 nodes, usually only e.g. 6 curves are displayed, so for 3 nodes there are no values. I don't know why?

 

One more question, where I have to change the settings for having more results (instances) during the injection, compression and holding pressure time? I have that problem, that I have only 2 points in my curve (plot xy)

 

Thanks a lot in advance!


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04/27/2018 12:56 AM

Is your XY plotting a problem for all results or one plot type? I created a new plot for pressure results, set number of curves to  9 and it works. The only explanation I have for this is if you select nodes that do not have the given data on them (e.g. nodes on the interior 3D mesh with an average fiber orientation plot (which only has data on the surface). Or the nodes you selected are on the mold and you show part results. I would actually not use the plot properties for node selection unless I have to; I would switch the node layer on and select instead. Not sure this helps .. if not please include some instructions and maybe a screen shot.

There are also things you could do with export of results in a text file that you can manipulate in for instance Excel.

 

To add more result output steps for compression molding, go to the process settings dialogue, and click through the wizard until you see 'Advanced Options'. Click on 'Edit' for the 'solver parameters' . For the FIll + Pack Analysis dialogue, click on the edit next to 'intermediate options'. You can now request a lot more output steps in filling and packing. (the dialogue for Midplane and Dual Domain meshes is a bit different but I assume this is for 3D meshes. There is extensive help for this if you need more:

http://help.autodesk.com/view/MFIA/2019/ENU/?guid=GUID-026E5980-A9A6-459D-86CF-E7FD02D49D2D

 

Hope this helps

 

 

Hanno van Raalte,

Product Manager for Autodesk Simulation Moldflow products

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04/27/2018 2:45 PM

Please find attached the screenshots.

 

There you can see my xy-plot with 3 different nodes, but it always Shows it as one curve and only 5 Points why?

 

Thanks a lot for help!

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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/27/2018 3:46 PM

Hi @t1234.k1234,

Thanks for posting!

I can not see the name of the plot you are displaying, but from the plot T/t I assume is a kind of cooling process.

During the cooling process the time steps are dynamically distributed based on a energy balance approach, that means, you usually have more points or closer at the beginning of the plot and less or broader distributed at the end.

This approach allows moldflow to solve faster, optimizing when to run a iteration step.

However, when you select more than 100 steps, this approach is not used anymore and the amount of time steps are equally distributed through the cooling time.

I hope this solve your issue, but if you are talking about something else, please give us a full description of your process (ideally also the .sdy file) or contact us a Tech Support.

I hope it helps!

Cheers,

Javier


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Re: Results: animation displayed as diagramms

04/27/2018 4:28 PM

Hi t1234.k1234,

 

Ok, I think this could be an easy one ... Two things are happening here:

1) the time scale does not start from 0. The first timestep with data on these nodes is at 0.3899 seconds (or there about). Before that time the nodes are not filled and therefore there is no data to display at these positions (the nodes are close to the end of fill). If you were to select a node at the gate, you should see your many more time steps in filling and packing.

2) Another thing that may come into play here is that the time scale you are looking it is just over 0.01 seconds (you have 5 data points in that very small time span). Though you specify 50 results in filling, this may in fact be close to the number of time steps the solver will have internally. The solver will by default fill 4% of the cavity at every time step in the solver (which typically provides a good balance between speed and accuracy). But this means the solver fills the cavity in roughly 25 steps, and you request more than 25 steps in output. Get more than that the 25, we will have to slow down the solver and less volume per time step. To do that, go to the "filing phase solver parameters' and reduce the max. volume % per time step to a smaller number (e.g. 1%).  This would create more solver iteration steps to produce output for.

 

I needed to noodle  a little on the last problem I saw: why have several notes queried, but why you see three Black nodes on the model (they should be the different colors) and why it's only showing one curve. I think I  now understand it; you have set very defined ranges for  X and Y scales. If you set then to Auto,  you should see data on all nodes, with different curve colors and displayed the model with different colors. It also explains (partially) why you see only a fewer time steps than you would hope to see.

 

Hope this solves it for you. Have a good weekend.

 

Hanno

Hanno van Raalte,

Product Manager for Autodesk Simulation Moldflow products

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04/29/2018 6:35 PM

I am right now trying to restart my simulations with more steps, hopefully I will get more results.

By the way, please find attached my Settings for the xy-Plot "Pressure".  I have Chosen nodes on the top of the cavity. Actually I Need the Points on the top of my Pins for comparison. On the last Picture you can see clearly the Pins. I need the pressure, which was achieved in the end of the filling at x time, for example.

 

Thanks a lot!

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